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honghu 发表于 2007-3-11 16:36

lab色彩空间一书各章节总结 3

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Rk'{{{$] Chapter 3 is about preparing for expanding on the benefits of LAB that were introduced in the symmetrical adjustment recipe.p[|R7AfW
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The chapter starts with a review of that recipe. LAB separates colorand contrast. After steepening the A and B curves to improve the rangeof colors in the image, adjusting the L curve involves finding therange that most needs the adjustment. While in L curves, mouse over theimage (click and drag) and notice the area of the L curve that isactivated. This is the area that you need to steepen. You can do thiswith a simple curve that steepens that area. Sharpening is then appliedto the L channel.;RH Ld[4s-yKQ
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Images that have L curve problems (too dark, too light, etc.) also tendto be colorless. You can't just lighten a dark image, because chancesare it's too monotone, as well. You need to increase the range ofcolors as well.
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The next element that Margulis adds is this: steepening the A curvewill intensify the green and magenta, the B curve the blue and yellow.You can use this to control the color balance. As long as you keep thecurve straight at this point, and passing through the center point, theimage will remain otherwise neutral.
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IG'Y$oO1y'o&gi One example he gives is for images that are predominantly greenfoliage. If you increase both A and B equally, you'll end up withgreens that are a bit too yellow. Simply reduce the steepening on the Bcurve, and you'll reduce the yellows. Keep in mind that this will alsodecrease the blues. bOvyL+w~A/dm

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When I increased both A and B equally, the magenta in the skin tonesgot even stronger. Here is the result of steepening both equally:[attach]50299[/attach]
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You can see that reducing the steepness of A and increasing it in Bmade the image overall more yellow than magenta, but it kept the blueand yellow balanced.
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Margulis spends a bit of time talking about our perception of thegreens of nature and skin tone. These are two situations where our mindsees most differently from the camera. We're sure that the greens arericher and more detailed than they really are. And we are also surethat skin is more tanned, bronzed than it really is. His argument forthese two situations is that we should satisfy our perceptions of thesetypes of images, not the reality. If we are too literal with greens orskin, our perception of the image will that it is flat and washed out.
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[u][b]Full Range.[/b][/u] This means that the lightest and darkestparts of the image are handled right. Appropriately is the word heuses. This is also called setting highlight and shadow, which we're allfamiliar with. In RGB and CMYK achieving a neutral color is a matter ofbalancing the numbers. Neutral colors in RGB have the same value foreach of the channels. In CMYK, the channels that need to be the sameare magenta and yellow, with a bit more cyan.zEs1~Q F
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In LAB you can set your highlight with the L channel and then just makesure that you have a neutral color by making sure that A and B both are0. This means that you can make huge changes very quickly in LAB. Thisis because L is, as Margulis calls it, a bull. It's a very powerfultool. It can correct serious problems with contrast. This also meansthat RGB and CMYK will handle some situations better, since they arenot a bull in a china shop. Those instances will be covered later inthe book.
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[u][b]Impossible colors[/b][/u] are colors that just aren't right. Youdon't always have the luxury of a neutral color to balance from, butunderstanding LAB numbers (as we'll all get better at as we workthrough this), you can think through an image and make intelligentchoices. The large the A or B number (positive or negative) the morecolor. The closer those values are to 0, the more neutral they are./?] YYc!kq5K/D

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Margulis goes through two examples at this point. A dark, dense forestand head shot of a model. His basic point here is that the way we seethese scenes is different than the camera. We see more in the shadows,more shades of green, more intense green, and a tanner face. Our job aspost-processors is to not capture the scene accurately from ascientific standpoint, but from the way that we think we see. We havelocalized contrast and a much wider tonal range available to us as wewalk through this world. We need to overcome the limitations of thephotographic image by making the image optimized to reproduce ourmemory of the scene.2l'^-i!o)zL
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Understanding the L curve is easy. Dark is dark and light is light. TheA and B curves are more difficult to keep straight. Once you get inyour head that green is opposite of magenta and that blue is theopposite of yellow you'll know which colors are paired. After that justremember B = Blue. Then you'll know that the B curve is blue andyellow. You could also add: A = mAgentA. There's no "a" in blue oryellow.*s.N gS2h*I7^
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Another thing to get clear on is that in LAB positive values are warm(magenta and yellow) and negative values are cool (green and blue). Iknow that yellow and green can't be opposites; they are too closelyrelated. That helps me remember that yellow is paired with blue.
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b^mPj"H4P The info palette is also very important. There are little eyedroppersnext to the colorspaces on each side. This is a drop down menu that youcan change. The left side is set by default to Actual Color. Leave itas is. The right side you should set to the colorspace that you aremost familiar with and understand the numbers best. Margulis says thatfor him that is now LAB, but for most of us (especially those of us whohave to read this book!) we'll find RGB or CMYK most natural.*b/X @~P,d&n a4Q~
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Having said that, there are different RGB and CMYK colorspaces, all ofwhich will yield different results. For the purpose of working withthis book he recommends that you set your RGB to sRGB and your CMYK toU.S. Web Coated (SWOP)v.2. You can change these in your Color Settings,found in the Edit menu.
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bL4]MY(l+K(PyC In order to change between RGB and LAB, Margulis uses the Convert toProfile command. His reasons are pretty esoteric and I'm pretty surethat we can all just use the Image>Mode menu.
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We all see color differently. Especially color-blind people, who cannotdistinguish the green/magenta very well. This section of the chapter isreally only useful if you read it and study the images. The interplayof A and B is so crucially important to what we do, that as muchexperience you can get in playing with the numbers in your head as youlook at images is important. Take a look at the images that he's put inthis part of the chapter, read along and you'll gain more insight intohow A and B work together.l8}Q cU'_F

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unfeel 发表于 2007-3-11 21:54

有图,还勉强看,纯E文的就不行了:L

extdis 发表于 2007-3-11 23:25

要是中文该多好:victory:

jy00123 发表于 2007-3-12 10:54

很有用,虽然看着比较累但总算是明白了.谢谢鸿鹄.

乖乖猫 发表于 2007-5-16 16:16

My question is this: to my eye the even changes in A and B, themoreyellow version, looks better, as this is evening sweet light.Inaddition, there's not much skin tone, but my son's hand there getstoomagenta in the second version. \"gn6pH~
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Are there times that it would be desirable to leave the accentuated yellow in the greens of nature? Which do you all prefer?6eL%E)B X7A)O? } Z
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俺做了两个,然后选择天空部分用那个toomagenta的天空替代不就行了吗?
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难道可以只用一层就调出想要的效果 more yellow version 's greens of nature+ toomagenta sky?6O1?(jO \p"Kf7I
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